Well ...

topic posted Sun, June 17, 2007 - 5:14 AM by  Unsubscribed
This Tribe sounds like such a good idea but nobody is moderating it, should we get someone to breath some life into this Tribe and get whining again?
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    Sun, June 17, 2007 - 10:03 AM
    Careful--- talk that like will get you elected Moderator. ;)
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      Sun, June 17, 2007 - 2:17 PM
      Fine, bring it on! LOL
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        Mon, June 18, 2007 - 1:52 AM
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          Mon, June 18, 2007 - 2:55 AM
          That's interesting Tim but the Tribe has been rather dead, I think of a Moderator not as a nanny but as someone who keeps conversation flowing.
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            Mon, June 18, 2007 - 3:46 AM
            But...what if people just want to be silently jaded? Or were you thinking of changing the name and description of the tribe? Kind of turn it into "Party Town Tribe" or something along those lines?
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              Mon, June 18, 2007 - 4:02 AM
              Can't imagine that happening to be honest.
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                Mon, June 18, 2007 - 4:24 AM
                Well, what's your platform then? I don't want to put words in your mouth. (My platform is/was to promise to resign without notice if elected moderator...)
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                  Mon, June 18, 2007 - 4:25 AM
                  Cassandra.
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                    Mon, June 18, 2007 - 4:48 AM
                    I don't particularly have a platform I just think a Moderator would liven up the debate somewhat and I can't imagine a Moderator changing the Tribe name and description on a whim. I know I wouldn't.
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                      Mon, June 18, 2007 - 10:52 AM
                      does one have to be moderator to liven up the date?

                      i am not sure how that correlates... whatever techniques you might have for "livening up the debate" surely could be implemented without you being moderator....

                      could you tell us what your techniques for "livening up the debate" might be and why they would require you to be moderator to implement them?
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                        Mon, June 18, 2007 - 11:03 AM
                        I moderate two other Tribes and if when I log on the little "M" icon shows no posts I go in and make a couple of entries. I'm hardly going to do that with all 50 Tribe's I'm a member of but I think most Moderator's try to keep their Tribe's active. Just my opinion.
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                          Mon, June 18, 2007 - 11:55 AM
                          So, basically, what you are saying is that for you to throw significant energy into a tribe, you have to be in charge of said tribe? Otherwise, to you, the tribe becomes dull and not worth the time bothering to actually think up something to post? Any other facets, to the problem(s) of this tribe you'd care to share before we feel the need to mess further with the time honored traditions of this once great and powerful tribe that, it has been alleged, has fallen on hard times due to a lack of a moderator?

                          BTW, I just noticed that it is lunch time...
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                            Mon, June 18, 2007 - 12:00 PM
                            That's not what I'm saying at all TMI, my point simply was that I try to keep my Tribe's interesting for the members. When a Tribe has over 300 members and not one post in weeks it has obviously gone a little stale. I'm not trying to take it over, I don't care if there is a Moderator or not I just feel that if someone was looking after it, it may have more activity.

                            Ironically this discussion about a Moderator has livened the Tribe up, completely off topic but something is better than nothing I suppose.
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                              Mon, June 18, 2007 - 1:10 PM
                              Caz, I truly hope people are just fucking with you. If they're seriously demanding that you state your "platform" before taking over the Mod position... wow.
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                                Mon, June 18, 2007 - 1:25 PM
                                Thanks Amy, I was feeling slightly beaten down. I was going to say the Tribe should be called "Hell is here".
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                                  Mon, June 18, 2007 - 1:57 PM
                                  But seriously, where are you going to get your campaign funding? If you want to have any ties with corporate interests, you can forget my vote.
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                                    Mon, June 18, 2007 - 2:01 PM
                                    Well Alan, I was thinking of doing a bank job. It's the only real way to fund a campaign of this size and not be tied down by the big corporations. I'm just looking for a driver at the moment.
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                                  Mon, June 18, 2007 - 9:59 PM
                                  oh i am seriously messing with you... sorry if it came out sounding otherwise... hey, we are sisters here, it is the OTHER people that are hell
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                                Mon, June 18, 2007 - 7:26 PM
                                C'mon, an attempted coupe at the 'hell is other people' tribe is serious stuff!

                                If someone who wants to desperately be in charge can vie for the position, why can't others who might be reluctant to take the position also vie for the position? I think it was Winston Churchill, or some other Imperial schill, who once said, "he who governs least governs best" or something to that effect. In any case, my re-offer to moderate the tribe and then abdicate without notice still stands.
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                                  Tue, June 19, 2007 - 1:21 AM
                                  "...my re-offer to moderate the tribe and then abdicate without notice still stands. "

                                  Hmmm...as I recall, you abdicated when someone complained that you were deleting their posts. So, Timibob, are you a turn-and-run sort who talks the talk and that's all?

                                  Oh, go ahead - you know you want to be moderator!
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                                    Tue, June 19, 2007 - 2:46 AM
                                    Yes it does sound like Tim wants to be Moderator, he certainly could be classified as hell so perhaps he's the man for the job.
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                                      Tue, June 19, 2007 - 10:14 AM
                                      I am not hell, I can assure you of that. I am simply a jaded denizen. Us jaded denizens just want to know what you would do for the tribe that it is not already doing for itself...organically.

                                      I do thank you for "livening up the [deb]ate" though. Personally, I'm for a moderation by community at this point...which is what we have now. However, if folks insist that there be a "moderator" then, well, I can't see why I wouldn't be a good choice...just like many other folks here...

                                      Okay, who else would like to moderate this tribe and what is your platform? Seriously, I'm guessing a good 25% of the lurkers and bridge toll salesman here would jump at the chance if it was only offered to them. Yet, sadly, they don't speak up. They hold their breath and watch what is happening. Possibly some of them are sharpening up a new anonymous avatar to join the foray? I don't really know. But what I do know is that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely...and that some folks confuse absolute power with vodka. Some of those do it anonymously and, as for the rest, there is only mostly speculation...anonymity being one of the prices to pay for having free flowing forums.
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                                    Tue, June 19, 2007 - 9:59 AM
                                    rheT, I was never moderator of this tribe...as you well would know if you weren't busy hatching phantasmagoria. However, if you wish to bring any other faulty theories to bear, let's hear them now in public rather than privately passed as gossip messages through back channels...like so many others seem to wallow in here on tribe.

                                    As for talking the talk or whatever it is you are trying to say...heck, what is it you are trying to say?

                                    Do I have a bone to pick with some of the folks who post here? Maybe. Do I intend to take out my aggression on them if I were moderator? No. And that is the hell of it, isn't it? You don't really know, >no matter what anyone says< until you actually elect them to be moderator. Although I have a sense that I would not...even if I don't spend hours and days trying to come across that way. I don't...but am suspicious of folks who do take all that time to point out how good they are and how amazing it would be if they were put in charge.

                                    Anyways, my promise to resign without notice if made moderator still stands and I think it is a good platform from which to run on. Certainly better than "Gee, this place is kind of boring and I couldn't be bothered to breath any life into it unless I were made moderator..." IMHO.

                                    Frankly, the place has done just fine (as far I know...I mean all sorts of stupid things could have been going on here when I wasn't looking and then the threads deleted by the originators) in my opinion WITHOUT a moderator. Now, if you see some need to have a sugar-daddy run the place well, I'm your man. Not a troll. A person who actually has qualms and wants to breath fresh air, not just participate in some green, under the bridge, extravaganza. But, as I said and we should all be aware, that is just me saying things, right? Just like anyone else who wants to be moderator of this tribe for "extraordinary" reasons.

                                    I do encourage the folks in this tribe though to talk about what they want out of the tribe...but, if they decide that the only way to get that is to put some strongman in charge, they will likely get a strongman and not much else. It's like politics in real life...but not! :^|
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                                      Tue, June 19, 2007 - 1:27 PM
                                      "However, if you wish to bring any other faulty theories to bear, let's hear them now in public rather than privately passed as gossip messages through back channels...like so many others seem to wallow in here on tribe. "

                                      OK. As soon as I finish hatching them, you'll be the first to know.
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                                        Tue, June 19, 2007 - 1:59 PM
                                        I tire of this.
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                                          Wed, June 20, 2007 - 5:15 PM
                                          me too, and i only got here
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                                            Wed, June 20, 2007 - 7:03 PM
                                            So, Caz, you wanna moderate? If no one else has a better idea, then I think we should cast a few votes, call it a done deal, notify Tribe, and move on. There is one person here who will argue about it for a month, will then argue with whoever gets elected as Moderator, and continue to make stupid comments in response to most everyone's posts regardless of topic, but that shouldn't hold up this process----- it's just What He Does (read some archived threads and see for yourself). Ignore him and move on. If he keeps it up, maybe whoever gets elected Moderator will ban his ass and we can get back to what the tribe is all about anyway.
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                                              Wed, June 20, 2007 - 8:46 PM
                                              What makes you think anyone would be banned from this tribe no matter who became moderator? In any case, did you come here to discuss "hell is other people" in a cheery glad handing forum? Or did you just come...here? Seriously, dude or dudette or whatever or whomever you are, it really is pathetic how many people want someone to moderate "hell is other people" in the manner of a fascist state! Obviously you aren't unclear on the concept...just part of the problem!
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                                            Thu, June 21, 2007 - 12:07 AM
                                            Hell is this thread.

                                            I vote for you to be moderator. Now, let us move on to more enjoyable misothropic topics. Ooh, that rhymed.
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                                              Fri, June 22, 2007 - 4:49 PM
                                              i vote "no moderator". if we do choose a moderator, they're bound to be some kind of person. and while that would be hell for sure, this tribe is about hell is other *people* - not hell is other *person*, so it makes more sense to have multiple people act collectively as a moderator, raising hell together.

                                              and don't give me that hell is *other* people bullshit, and tjhat somehow the people in this tribe are exempt, because all of you are other people, and this is a hell of our own making.

                                              let's hear it for nobody! nobody for moderator!
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                                                Fri, June 22, 2007 - 8:27 PM
                                                I'm with you. But, *some* want the fame, so to speak. I rather like the idea of toasting the prima dona. (I've got someone in mind... and it's not Caz.)

                                                Does "Hell is other people" really have to be the *best* tribe? Isn't it enough that we have a place to go to vent, even when it means that we're venting against another tribe member?

                                                I don't know...

                                                And, BTW, Timibob, or whatever it is that you're calling yourself now, you WERE moderator when transfag's posts *disappeared.*
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                                                  Fri, June 22, 2007 - 9:00 PM
                                                  Seems I voted no moderator last time, guess I will again vote no moderator again.....since hell is people that cant understand that we dont need to be moderated. Viva la resistance!
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                                                  Sat, June 23, 2007 - 3:21 PM
                                                  >you WERE moderator when transfag's posts *disappeared.*

                                                  Really? It wasn't me who deleted he-she's posts. You must be one of those folks who think we should impeach Gore...
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                                                    Sun, June 24, 2007 - 10:27 AM
                                                    Timi -

                                                    The only person in a Tribe that can delete individual comments from a thread is the moderator. If you're not the moderator, the only thing that you can delete is an entire thread (comments and all) that you, yourself, have initiated. You CAN'T delete an individual comment (even if it is yours) from any thread, regardless of whether you initiated that thread or not.

                                                    Impeach Gore? What are you babbling about now?
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                                                      Sun, June 24, 2007 - 8:55 PM
                                                      *rolls eyes*

                                                      Wow. Maybe TOU came in and decided it wasn't cool...or maybe someone was moderator for a few hours, deleted a comment and resigned...or, more likely, I'm just an involuntary participant in your fantasy life. I mean, which is more likely? However, to really get the investigation off the ground...why don't you post a link to my alleged intervention...or has all evidence of that been erased as well...like in so many other cases throughout human history wherein someone alleges something without a shred of proof and then, for some reason, that becomes gossipel.
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                                                        Sun, June 24, 2007 - 11:08 PM
                                                        "However, to really get the investigation off the ground..."

                                                        Are you calling her a liar? Then why would you come up with alternate explanations of something, that you then turn 180 degrees around to deny ever happening? If you're trying to ward off suspicion, you're doing a terrible job.
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                                                          Sun, June 24, 2007 - 11:45 PM
                                                          Maybe. Isn't it good to know your opinion is possibly such an obvious overriding concern of mine that I may have felt compelled to respond?
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                                                        Mon, June 25, 2007 - 10:38 AM
                                                        "...or, more likely, I'm just an involuntary participant in your fantasy life."

                                                        More likely the other way around - every else in Tribe is a participant in YOUR fantasy life.

                                                        Timibob, many of us saw you as moderator when those comments disappeared and you're the only person who could've deleted them then. Sorry bub, but if the shoe fits, the shoe fits. You're *it.* If you don't like getting called on your shit, quit doing the shit. As I said before, you do an awful lot of talking...
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                                                          Mon, June 25, 2007 - 11:31 AM
                                                          Yes, the key word would be "saw", eh? As in the same old saw.

                                                          You and your bevvy of alts are quite tiresome. Naturally, that doesn't bother you overly much...as long as you get to spread your happy-happy joy-joy across the Internet you appear to be content with the inane insanity of your reason d'etre.
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                                                            Mon, June 25, 2007 - 11:53 PM
                                                            "If you don't like getting called on your shit, quit doing the shit. As I said before, you do an awful lot of talking... "

                                                            As I have been saying (I don't like repeating myself...), you delete something, and well, you've broken an egg or two...get over the consequences.

                                                            I was impressed with "bevvy" and "reason d'etre." You've come quite a long way from "always."

                                                            And, I'm equally impressed with your ability to use a keyboard - something that I never guessed knuckle-draggers would ever be able to accomplish.

                                                            Timmy, ("Lassie, Lassie! Go girl! Save Timmy! He's stuck in the well...") it's a very simple premise - don't do the crime if you can't do the time. Albeit, doing what a moderator can do (delete posts that you don't like) is not a crime, not by any stretch of the imagination, you still have to face the possibility that those deleted comments will cause some "trouble." Get over it.

                                                            I'd like to see no moderator. But if you choose to do the moderator thing again, let this be a lesson to you: Everything in life is a risk. And, accept it or not, not everyone that you encounter is going to *like* you. That's the price you pay.
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                                                              Tue, June 26, 2007 - 2:29 AM
                                                              Actually, you were impressed only that I bothered to respond at all...then you needed to find something to say again, reiterating your fantasies...this time including even more insulting statements...because that is about the only intelligible thing you are capable of at this point...oh and the back channel gossip. Don't forget that...and how much better it makes you feel. Yep, you are the perfect human being. No question there. If only more people were like you the world sure would be a better place...just ask around.
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    Tue, June 26, 2007 - 11:53 AM
    You all are being whiny bitches. Now STFU and go back to bitching about the rest of humanity, huh?

    :-p

    Damn.

    Back on topic.... for me, hell is the fact that missing people aren't important unless THEY'RE PREGNANT. Apparently last week, there was only 1 missing person in the entire United States. Fuck that.
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      Mon, July 9, 2007 - 1:05 AM
      *warning! tasteless joke follows!*

      Was that missing person...our last moderator?

      *warning! tasteless joke follows!*

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